A member of the Central Park Five doesn’t believe Trump really cares about prison reform.

Raymond Santana was one of four men who were exonerated of a rape they were accused of committing in 1989. With their trial in the minds of the nation, Donald Trump called for their lifelong incarceration by buying full page newspaper ads attacking them. Some have called the ads racist; the president has never apologized for his words.

Santana appeared on CNN to talk to Anderson Cooper about Trump’s pardoning of Alice Johnson, and said he doesn’t believe the decision came from a genuine place.

“Because of this mass track record, because we know that he’s deceitful, he’s lied several times, he’s fabricated things, it’s very hard to believe that it comes from a genuine place,” Santana said. “Then he met with Kim Kardashian, who spoke to him, and consulted with him, and she swayed him to do this. So it just proves that, at the end of the day, he’s still full of lies and still full of trickery.”

Like other critics, Santana believes Trump is using Kimye to sway the public’s opinion.

“We were still guilty in his eyes, so at the end of the day, this move does not look like it comes from a good place,” Santana added. “We can’t trust him. You can’t just dangle Kim Kardashian and Kanye West in our face and say … ‘Look I have a heart, and I deserve a pass.’”

Santana has no harsh feelings toward Kardashian. He tweeted his props to her on Wednesday.

During his interview, he expressed a belief in celebrities’ social responsibility.

“Our celebrities, this is what they’re supposed to do,” he said. “They have this major influence, and they have a duty to the public, those people who support them. They’re supposed to champion for a cause like this.”

Watch the full interview below:


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