Freddie Gibbs revealed his six degrees of separation from Micheal Jackson are much closer than most. On a recent episode of the All the Smoke podcast, the rapper shared that his father and the King of Pop were talent show rivals as kids.

Gibbs told hosts Matt Barnes and Stephen Jackson that Jackson took no prisoners on the stage.

“Yeah, Michael Jackson used to beat my daddy’s a** in the talent shows,” Gibbs said.

“My dad [sang] in The Chi-Lites, a matter of fact. Him and Mike the same age, so they was always bumping heads in the talent shows, and Mike would f**k that n***a up. I’m like, ‘Fuck you thought, n***a?'”