Gayle King is reflecting on Cindy Crawford’s comments about her first appearance on Oprah Winfrey’s long-running talk show, The Oprah Winfrey Show, in 1986. 

While appearing on the first episode of the Apple TV+ docuseries The Super Models, Crawford said the former TV host made her feel like “chattel” (pieces of property) during the interview, which also featured John Casablancas, the model’s rep at Elite Modeling Agency, Entertainment Tonight reported.

“I was like the chattel or a child, be seen and not heard,” Crawford said in The Super Models. “When you look at it through today’s eyes, Oprah’s like, ‘Stand up and show me your body. Show us why you’re worthy of being here.’ In the moment I didn’t recognize it, and watching it back I was like, ‘Oh, my gosh. That was so not OK, really.’ Especially from Oprah.”

According to an Entertainment Tonight report, King addressed Crawford’s claims with Entertainment Tonight’s Rachel Smith at the Clooney Foundation for Justice’s 2023 Albie Awards in New York City.

“I haven’t seen it, and I want to see it, but I’m surprised and a little disappointed,” she said. “Because I know Cindy’s been on her show many, many, many times, and it has always been a pleasant experience, [so] I would hate to think that something that happened years ago [could have bothered her].”

King clarified she wasn’t sure what happened during the interview, but she knows what kind of person Winfrey is.

“It’s not Oprah’s thing to humiliate or make anybody feel badly,” she said.

The CBS journalist also shared that there isn’t bad blood between the model and the host.

“I have to see it, but, as far as I know, everything is good between Oprah and Cindy,” she added.

Crawford appeared on Winfrey’s show several times and was also featured on Oprah’s Master Class in 2013.