For Juneteenth, two of Apple TV+’s creators, Lincoln’s Dilemma co-director/EP Jacqueline Olive and Swagger creator and executive producer Reggie Rock Bythewood got together for a holiday conversation.

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The history of Juneteenth is alive today. The makers of two Apple Originals, Lincoln’s Dilemma Co-Director + Executive Producer Jacqueline Olive and Swagger Creator + Executive Producer Reggie Rock Bythewood, see the past flowing through their work. They sat down to talk about crafting authentic stories with complexity, reverence, and freedom.

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Lincoln’s Dilemma, a four-part documentary series, is a fresh exploration of President Lincoln and the complex journey to end slavery. Narrated by Jeffrey Wright and featuring the voices of Bill Camp as Abraham Lincoln and Leslie Odom Jr. as Frederick Douglass, the series is a 21st century examination of a complicated man and the people and events that shaped his evolving stance on slavery. Inspired by NBA superstar Kevin Durant’s experiences, Swagger explores the world of youth basketball, and the players, their families and coaches who walk the fine line between dreams and ambition, and opportunism and corruption. Off the court, the show reveals what it’s like to grow up in America.

Inspired by NBA superstar Kevin Durant’s experiences, Swagger explores the world of youth basketball, and the players, their families and coaches who walk the fine line between dreams and ambition, and opportunism and corruption. Off the court, the show reveals what it’s like to grow up in America.